president obama and former secretary of state hillary clinton flying together to south africa to attend nelson mandela's memorial service. but as talk of hillary's possible white house run in 2016 gains steam, there are signals she's doing more to distance herself from her former boss. joining me now is howard kurtz, host of "media buzz" here on the fox news channel. lauren ashbush, his co-host and fox news contributor. you barely got here due to the weather janice was talking about. >> it's wicked. >> lauren, let me start with you. you have them together. i'd love to be on this airplane, by the way. former president george w. bush and laura bush there as well. you have hillary and president obama together. yet on the outside it appears as if she maybe wants to distance herself, i guess because of obama care. >> she has a high wire act she has to perform right now. because if she does run, she worked for the president. but yet she doesn't want to be associated with him if the health care rollout and the rest of this goes south. she has to balance what's good for her. and it doesn't look